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Post by Admin Crusty on May 28, 2023 3:53:54 GMT
A strongly built knight representing the Amihanan League was present and stepped forward.
"The Doge proudly declares his war will be finished by years end. His flippant comment assumes the destruction of the Christian Amihanan League, an aggressive war which he has somehow floundered his way into a third year, with nothing to show for it but his reclaiming his own castle.
While the rest of Christendom faces an existential threat, the Doge's Republic and the Kressians see their gold and soldiers spent attacking and killing their fellow Christians.
We have called for peace multiple times with them, they refuse, set on vengeance and conquest. The Duke Macroix wishes with his whole heart that he could march with his fellow leaders to face the infidel threat but instead he must gird his loins to face war for a third year against his neighbors, his only crime being the lord of lands his insidious neighbor covets.
We call on the Diet to demand the immediate termination of hostilities, status quo, a ten year truce and the commitment of Kressia and Elyria's armies to ending the Mongol threat. The Duke will gladly support the cause under such conditions."
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Post by Serene Doge Marino Medici on May 28, 2023 6:21:30 GMT
The Elyrian delegate stands and faces the Amihanan soldier
I see that politics isn't well understood by the common soldiery of your realm, it is best not lie before the Diet and his Holiness. The Serene Prince has tried 3 separate times to issue peace, once before war was even declared to ensure no blood would be shed, yet your stubborn lord has continually refused them. Your lord made a single joke of an offer which was laughed at and refused as Elyrian and Kressian forces successfully repelled all Amihanan gains. You are on the backfoot, this war will end this year with an Elyrian victory by year's end and you know it.
You also call for Christendom to unite and support Percia, but at the same time provide a threat to them for your realm's support. You wish for thousands of men from Elyria and Kressia to march, through the winter, to Percia to fight, and only then you will support the Christians? You are truly mad if you think anyone here would accept your, quite frankly, ridiculous demands. There is no conceivable means for an army to make it there within campaigning season, something which you of all people I would have hoped would be aware of. On that note however-
The Elyrian delegate turns to the Percian delegation
-Come next year, his Serenity aims to send at least 1000 Florins directly to your realm as financial aid to support your efforts. Whether that's used to raise mercenaries locally or rebuild your lost city, that is for your Majesty to decide. We pray for those who died, and hope the talks regarding a unified Imperial force bear fruit.
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Post by Admin Bob on May 28, 2023 16:17:59 GMT
The Amihanian League representative bristled at the comment, and once again stood to address the Diet.
My Lords, the representatives of the Republic state that they have offered us equitable terms of peace, terms that we apparently should have accepted despite no hostility on our part before the outbreak of this war. My Lords, we offered, at the time when we successfully countered the first thrust of the Republics sword at us, a peace of status quo, with no border changes, and with a small indemnity to pay for the damages, a mere 300 florins per year for three years. What does the Republic, the aggressor, the invader of our lands, offer us for a peace term? They call for our castle to be annexed, an indemnity of 1500 florins, and most egregiously want to tax our capital city for perpetuity! If the world wonders why peace has not been reached in the north, it is not on our part, it is the dastardly coalition of Elyria and Kressia which threatens our very existence.
We call upon the Diet to force a peace deal upon this wretched war so that it may come to an end, and peaceful coexistence may resume and the Christian world may refocus its efforts on combating the Mongol horde to the south. If the Diet fails to reach a consensus that sees this war brought to an end, it will only encourage future such wars by Elyria, which no doubt will look for other neighbours to enslave for "perpetuity".
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Post by Serene Doge Marino Medici on May 28, 2023 23:24:46 GMT
1- The war between the Amihanan League, Eylria and Kressia be ended immediately in a white peace, with a truce to last the longer of the war with the Mongols or 5 years. 2- We elect a war leader, a proven cavalry commander or infantry commander, to lead the united efforts of Christendom. After the disunited disaster from last years' conflict, it is clear we need a leader. 3- The further away states in the North, too far to effectively assist in direct conflict in Percia, fund mercenaries to be raised by closer lords. For example, I am sponsoring archers previous mentioned. In the interest of ensuring this Diet moves forward to point 2 as it is far more pressing a matter, Elyria will announce that, should their war not be resolved by the end of this year, then we will self-enforce a 5 year truce in alignment with his Majesty Von Gewisse's request. As well, we hope our prior offer meets point 3's proposal. The 1000 Florins will be sent irrespective of how Elyria's war is resolved. But, moving on to point 2, as news had reached us of the previous coalition's attempt at engaging the enemy being foiled, I would like to ask the Diet who among our number proposes to lead the Imperial army this year to repel the Mongol force? To follow on from that, those that state they wish to lead, what plan do you have to meet this goal?
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Post by Admin Bob on May 29, 2023 0:05:09 GMT
The representative of the Amihanan League stood once again.
We categorically reject the constant threats from the Republic, and we will not be cowed by constant promises to "end the war in one year". What exactly is the Republic implying, that we'll find common ground within a year? No, what they intend to do is to invade our lands this season, and aim to defeat us before the year is over, thereby fulfilling their "promise". We have stated numerous times that we'd be quite open to a status quo ante bellum peace, but the Republic will never agree to such a just and fair peace.
We again urge the Diet to pass an act ending the war before the Republic is allowed to invade our lands under the pretense of "ending" the war. Should the Diet fail to come to such a conclusion, what you will surely see, and what I guarantee will happen, is that a Elyrian army will cross our border come spring, and aim to defeat us completely so they may impose their absurd peace deal upon us.
Side with justice and peace my lords, side with the Pope in calling for peace now, not peace when it suits the Elyrians.
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Post by Consul Allectus de Gallia on May 29, 2023 0:26:58 GMT
Allectus motions to the standard bearer who then begins banging a thick wooden staff on the raised platform. The loud noise it creates echoes throughout hall signaling to those in attendance to quiet down and focus their attention on the Speaker.
My Lords.
Since the motions presented by King Gewisse have not received any seconds and no counter proposal has been suggested, I wish to propose the following:
If this proposal or previous ones fail to be seconded, we shall move to discuss the threat of the Sartaq Khan’s horde.
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Post by Admin Bob on May 29, 2023 0:34:03 GMT
The Amihanan knight stands again:
We second this motion.
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Post by Alfred Von Gewisse on May 29, 2023 0:51:27 GMT
Might I recommend another point of discussion?
On the Imperial Diet and Peace: I. In the event Imperial realms are at war with one another, and there is not a unanimous desire from the aforementioned parties to seek a peace deal from the Diet, then the Diet has no standing to intervene.
II. In the event there is a unanimous desire from all parties involved for the creation of a Diet administered peace, then an arbitration will be undertaken whereby the Diet's members will create and vote on a peace deal through a simple majority of 50% + 1. Once such a proposal is successfully passed, it will be legally enforced by the Diet.
a) Should any party violate the terms of the deal, the Diet will henceforth declare the offending party an "unprotected state" where any Kingdom can declare war on the truce-breaker and enact punitive measures alongside enforcing the pre-designed treaty, until such a time as the offending party submits or surrenders.
III. In the event His Holiness, the Pope, declares that an Imperial war must cease, then it will follow the steps of Article II of ensuring such terms are found.
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Post by King Percy LXII of Percia on May 29, 2023 0:53:11 GMT
King Percy supports an armistice. The warring realms can pick up where they left off and resume murdering each other once the horde has been expelled from my liege’s land.
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Post by Landvogt Werner von Schwyz on May 29, 2023 1:08:06 GMT
Might I recommend another point of discussion? On the Imperial Diet and Peace: I. In the event Imperial realms are at war with one another, and there is not a unanimous desire from the aforementioned parties to seek a peace deal from the Diet, then the Diet has no standing to intervene. II. In the event there is a unanimous desire from all parties involved for the creation of a Diet administered peace, then an arbitration will be undertaken whereby the Diet's members will create and vote on a peace deal through a simple majority of 50% + 1. Once such a proposal is successfully passed, it will be legally enforced by the Diet. a) Should any party violate the terms of the deal, the Diet will henceforth declare the offending party an "unprotected state" where any Kingdom can declare war on the truce-breaker and enact punitive measures alongside enforcing the pre-designed treaty, until such a time as the offending party submits or surrenders. III. In the event His Holiness, the Pope, declares that an Imperial war must cease, then it will follow the steps of Article II of ensuring such terms are found. Helvetia seconds this proposal.
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Post by Consul Allectus de Gallia on May 29, 2023 1:10:55 GMT
Allectus takes down some notes before looking up from the podium and motions to the scribe to jot down the following.
The second from the delegate of the Amihanan League has been noted and will be included in the vote at the end.
King Gewisse, your proposal had been recognized and will be entered into the record, the particular discussion related to Diet authority to settle conflicts is towards the end of the agenda however.
The next topic of discussion will be how to respond to the invading horde ravaging Percian lands.
I would suggest first appointing an overall leader to take command of the forces contributed by the various realms.
Please either nominate someone or declare your intent to be considered for the role. As with any motion, it will require a second to be considered for a vote.
The standard bearer bangs his staff to begin the nomination process.
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Post by Consul Allectus de Gallia on May 29, 2023 1:11:43 GMT
The Helvetian second is recognized and the proposal will be brought to a vote at the end of the Diet session.
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Post by Consul Allectus de Gallia on May 30, 2023 15:19:27 GMT
Allectus didn’t need to signal the standard bearer to bring everyone’s attention to him. There was only gentle mutters and general silence after he called for a campaign leader to be nominated.
My Lords,
Since we have yet to nominate anyone to lead the campaign against the Horde, I suggest for now we move to discussing strategy and troop commitments from the various realms, until one of our number is brave enough to step forward and announce their wish to lead the campaign.
As for the Republic of Tyramo, we proudly announce that despite the losses from the previous campaign, we continue to be committed to lending our forces to fight the Mongol Horde and defend the realms of Christendom. We are able and willing to commit no less than a mix of 1000 men at arms/cavalry of various regiments and an equal number of levy infantry to the combined force.
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Post by Duke Gary da Carlsen on May 30, 2023 19:00:28 GMT
At least 2,000, roughly 30%/70% split of levy and non-levy if levies are fully mobilized with current mercenary hires. I may end up hiring more mercenaries, a lot will depend on the amount of funding from states too far to directly intervene.
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Post by Alfred Von Gewisse on May 30, 2023 19:42:34 GMT
Since the Lord Archon claims to be descended from the Emperor’s themselves - perhaps he could like to lead the army? An army with no head is but a flock of sheep waiting to be slaughtered…. Again
Gewisse is funding 300 mercenary swamp archers for Duke Gary to employ.
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