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Post by Consul Allectus de Gallia on Feb 22, 2023 19:50:33 GMT
"I believe we should make it that the diet should have its sessions not more often than 5 or 10 years apart, unless six lords express their support to the speaker or pope to have a special session due to some emergency. While I don't think we should be having these once a century, I do think the current session shows having this once every 3 years would be a bit much." I concur with the good Duke. It would be to our benefit to form the Diet every 5 years as opposed to every 3. And given the Speaker is elected for a 10 year period, it would line up with their last session being the one where they preside over the election of a new Speaker.
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Post by Consul Allectus de Gallia on Feb 22, 2023 19:52:30 GMT
I motion the diet conclude after the next vote I second this motion and for it to be included in the ballot of votes done at the end.
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Post by King Gościsław Kopaszewski on Feb 22, 2023 20:21:22 GMT
I propose a motion to raise florins from those assembled to establish a Cathedral in the name of our lord and savior.
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Post by Duke Gary da Carlsen on Feb 22, 2023 20:41:05 GMT
Where would you desire said Cathedral to be located? If it is your own land, can you not save up funds for it yourself?
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Post by King Percy LXII of Percia on Feb 22, 2023 21:28:24 GMT
I motion that a sinking fund is established for the eventual establishment of a crusade against the Moslems no later than 5 years from the passing of the motion into law. Each state shall be bound to contribute no less than 50gp per year and shall be bound to participate in the crusade in some form. The fund shall be located in the Popes land and the Military Order of Christ shall pledge to protect it, as should all other nations. We would note that a yearly charge of 50 florins would be prohibitively burdensome upon smaller states with less income than larger states. We would instead propose that each state pay an amount unique to their fortunes, worked out between them and His Holiness. Otherwise, the motion has nothing to discount it.
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Post by Alfred Von Gewisse on Feb 22, 2023 21:45:20 GMT
This is our first proper Imperial Diet in many generations and everyone here seems to have great ideas for spending OTHER peoples' money. We have been rugged individualists for many generations, protecting our own from any enemies Christian or Moslem while allowing our Priests to tend to their flock. We find no reason for any of this to change.
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Post by King Percy LXII of Percia on Feb 22, 2023 21:46:53 GMT
The Kingdom of Percia has been guarding the borders of Christendom for centuries, and We need no one else to tell us that. Those Christians sitting at the end of the peninsula, far from the borderlands, if they so desire to contribute to the defence of our faith, could contribute to this program. States could contribute money or contribute men, or work out some other deal with his holiness. But anyone who denies the need for common defence of our faith should have his motivations questioned.
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Post by Lord-Archon Trajan Evander on Feb 23, 2023 0:20:47 GMT
Current list of topics with appropriate seconds to vote on THUS FAR:
Changing the summons of the Imperial Diet from every 3 years to every 5 years. Adjourn the current Imperial Diet
This is merely a record. Other items are still able to be freely presented, discussed, and seconded.
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Post by Serene Doge Marino Medici on Feb 23, 2023 1:07:46 GMT
The Serene Prince rises to speak
I concur with the wise Kings Alfred and Percy on this matter. Forcing 18 realms to not only contribute funding, but also to join a foreign war is nonesensical. What would happen should everyone have sailed overseas, only for the eastern Pagans to decide to invade a defenceless Percia or Caelin. What would happen if the northern savages decided to invade the defenceless northern realms of Gewisse, Elyria, Concord or Kressia via the sea while we are on Crusade?
So no, should a crusade be called up from His Holiness, then it should remain a voluntary matter for each realm on choosing what to donate to the cause.
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Post by King Percy LXII of Percia on Feb 23, 2023 1:53:20 GMT
The Serene Prince rises to speakI concur with the wise Kings Alfred and Percy on this matter. Forcing 18 realms to not only contribute funding, but also to join a foreign war is nonesensical. What would happen should everyone have sailed overseas, only for the eastern Pagans to decide to invade a defenceless Percia or Caelin. What would happen if the northern savages decided to invade the defenceless northern realms of Gewisse, Elyria, Concord or Kressia via the sea while we are on Crusade? So no, should a crusade be called up from His Holiness, then it should remain a voluntary matter for each realm on choosing what to donate to the cause. Second. We propose that a motion of this nature be put in front of the Diet.
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Post by Consul Allectus de Gallia on Feb 23, 2023 1:58:32 GMT
Good King of Percia,
Could you elaborate on what exactly you move to vote on?
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Post by Duke Gary da Carlsen on Feb 23, 2023 2:04:34 GMT
I'd also like to know how such a motion would be different from the current status quo?
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Post by King Percy LXII of Percia on Feb 23, 2023 2:46:27 GMT
The motion proposed by the Grand Master, expanded upon by myself. That all nations come to an arrangement with His Holiness as to what to provide each year to a fund for the defence of Christendom.
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Post by Consul Allectus de Gallia on Feb 23, 2023 4:02:41 GMT
To my knowledge, the Christian kingdoms of the peninsula are not under threat nor has His Holiness the Pope requested that such a fund be created. I do not believe such a fund is required at this time. Those funds are of better use to strengthening the individual realms and to be spent as a ruler sees fit, as is his divine right to do so. If and when, His Holiness commands the faithful to wage holy war against pagans, heathens and the like, our realms will be prepared having spent the coin to expand their capabilities and not left in a secured vault in Reme.
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Post by Duke Gary da Carlsen on Feb 23, 2023 4:16:49 GMT
"As the pope has not made an explicit request for such a fund or mentioned any preparations for a crusade to my knowledge, I am also disinclined to back its creation at this time."
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