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Post by Thravok I on Feb 20, 2023 19:59:27 GMT
King Alfred Von Gewisse let out a long, audible sigh: "King Thravok, the reality on the ground dictates one must compromise. While we can all recognize your starting position, constantly countering with the same position over and over will get us nowhere. And all evidence points to your forces ravaging the lands and then getting swiftly defeated by the Marq. In the spirit of compromise, may I suggest the river being the dividing line between your two Kingdoms? It is, nearly literally, the middle ground between your starting positions. Map - imgur.com/F1JpYycRed lines being the original positions claimed. Blue line the suggested claims. A river between the two, what more natural barrier could there be besides oceans and mountains? I shall accept this instead. So, every kingdom get a fishing source.
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Post by Thravok I on Feb 20, 2023 20:04:12 GMT
I believe both Lords in the dispute have made their positions clear. While this began as a border dispute that escalated into war, we cannot forget the events that have taken place. God has chosen a victor and routed the forces of the Old Kingdom as well as the ones who initiated conflict and sought no true resolution, even in these very halls. What could not be achieved on the field of battle cannot be achieved by the stroke of a pen in the Imperial Diet. I present the Imperial Diet with the following proposal: 1. The recognized borders for immediate cessation of hostilities between the Holy Kingdom of Eriburn and the Old Kingdom of Thorgerheim. Map: imgur.com/w2P2c5d2. The Old Kingdom of Thorgerheim shall pay reparations for their undeclared war and raiding of the Holy Kingdom of Eriburn 60 florins over two years (30 florins per turn, for two turns). 3. A mandatory truce, bound by the laws of God and Man, maintained between the Holy Kingdom of Eriburn and the Old Kingdom of Thorgerheim for the span of 5 years (5 turns). Commence the traditional voting period (36 IRL hours) or else decided upon by His Holiness. I pray in the future your two realms can settle disputes outside of the Imperial Diet. these borders are not aceptable. Eriburn will attack me in 6 years and destroy my kingdom. My capital cannot be so close to them.
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Post by Lord-Archon Trajan Evander on Feb 20, 2023 20:07:14 GMT
Lord Thravok, you have made your displeasure quite clear. You receive one vote in these halls, as do your peers. If the greater Lordships agree with your stance, they will join you in a negative vote.
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Post by Alfred Von Gewisse on Feb 20, 2023 20:08:06 GMT
Alfred Von Gewisse slammed his fist on the table:
"Well you should have thought about that before you invaded his lands and got your arse handed to you! If you won't accept the Diet's ruling, should we vote in favor, then I think this business is concluded.
Good luck in your war, may the devil enjoy your soul after your defeat."
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Post by Admin Bob on Feb 20, 2023 20:08:10 GMT
A scribe stands and hammers his staff onto the floor three times.
"Voting has commenced, my lords. Vote yay or nay to the proposed resolution. Abstentions count towards neither side. No further discussion or debate allowed."
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Post by Duke Gary da Carlsen on Feb 20, 2023 20:09:16 GMT
yay.
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Post by Marq Luq d'Jean on Feb 20, 2023 20:09:56 GMT
The Crown Prince abstains.
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Post by Alfred Von Gewisse on Feb 20, 2023 20:10:23 GMT
AYE
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Post by Thravok I on Feb 20, 2023 20:12:03 GMT
I must vote: NO
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Post by King Percy LXII of Percia on Feb 20, 2023 20:20:25 GMT
We vote in favour of the resolution. The vote stands 3-1-1 (For, Against, Abstain).
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Post by Guildmaster Anatolius on Feb 20, 2023 20:24:21 GMT
Guildmaster Anatolius stands and makes a brief comment, “The Merchant Republic of Caelin finds this determination to be fair to both parties in both its compromise and its precedent. We vote in favor.
We also wish to echo the request of King Percy in asking for the assistance of the Diet in finding an amicable solution to the current conflict between Caelin and Phalus at the conclusion of other matters.”
He returns to his seat, waving over a messenger who has been waiting at the entry to the chamber.
The vote stands at 4-1-1 (For, Against, Abstain).
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Post by King Gościsław Kopaszewski on Feb 20, 2023 20:37:18 GMT
We vote nay
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Post by Johann von Lüttwitz on Feb 20, 2023 21:54:04 GMT
I believe both Lords in the dispute have made their positions clear. While this began as a border dispute that escalated into war, we cannot forget the events that have taken place. God has chosen a victor and routed the forces of the Old Kingdom as well as the ones who initiated conflict and sought no true resolution, even in these very halls. What could not be achieved on the field of battle cannot be achieved by the stroke of a pen in the Imperial Diet. I present the Imperial Diet with the following proposal: 1. The recognized borders for immediate cessation of hostilities between the Holy Kingdom of Eriburn and the Old Kingdom of Thorgerheim. Map: imgur.com/w2P2c5d2. The Old Kingdom of Thorgerheim shall pay reparations for their undeclared war and raiding of the Holy Kingdom of Eriburn 60 florins over two years (30 florins per turn, for two turns). 3. A mandatory truce, bound by the laws of God and Man, maintained between the Holy Kingdom of Eriburn and the Old Kingdom of Thorgerheim for the span of 5 years (5 turns). Commence the traditional voting period (36 IRL hours) or else decided upon by His Holiness. I pray in the future your two realms can settle disputes outside of the Imperial Diet. As this proposal was not seconded by any member here prior to the start of voting, we find it violates the rules as agreed upon during the election. Therefore we protest and must vote NAY
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Post by King Percy LXII of Percia on Feb 20, 2023 23:31:09 GMT
I believe both Lords in the dispute have made their positions clear. While this began as a border dispute that escalated into war, we cannot forget the events that have taken place. God has chosen a victor and routed the forces of the Old Kingdom as well as the ones who initiated conflict and sought no true resolution, even in these very halls. What could not be achieved on the field of battle cannot be achieved by the stroke of a pen in the Imperial Diet. I present the Imperial Diet with the following proposal: 1. The recognized borders for immediate cessation of hostilities between the Holy Kingdom of Eriburn and the Old Kingdom of Thorgerheim. Map: imgur.com/w2P2c5d2. The Old Kingdom of Thorgerheim shall pay reparations for their undeclared war and raiding of the Holy Kingdom of Eriburn 60 florins over two years (30 florins per turn, for two turns). 3. A mandatory truce, bound by the laws of God and Man, maintained between the Holy Kingdom of Eriburn and the Old Kingdom of Thorgerheim for the span of 5 years (5 turns). Commence the traditional voting period (36 IRL hours) or else decided upon by His Holiness. I pray in the future your two realms can settle disputes outside of the Imperial Diet. As this proposal was not seconded by any member here prior to the start of voting, we find it violates the rules as agreed upon during the election. Therefore we protest and must vote NAYPerhaps the four "Yea" votes should be considered as support for the motion in lieu of a formal second.
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Post by Landvogt Werner von Schwyz on Feb 20, 2023 23:50:20 GMT
Abstain
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