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Post by Lord-Archon Trajan Evander on Feb 17, 2023 20:19:49 GMT
As noted Lord-Archon and true blood of several past Emperors, Trajan Evander presents himself as candidate for speaker of this Imperial Diet.
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Post by Johann von Lüttwitz on Feb 17, 2023 20:35:25 GMT
I would propose official duties of the speaker as such:
The Duties are as follows:
1: To announce the business before the assembly in the order in which it is to be acted upon 2: To recognize members entitled to the floor 3. To allow an open period for comment whereby new business can be proposed by electors 4: To state, and to put to vote all questions which have been moved (seconded) 5: To assist in the expediting of business in every way compatible with the rights of the members by allowing brief remarks when motions are pending, if he thinks it advisable; to restrain the members when engaged in debate, within the rules of order; and to enforce on all occasions the observance of order and decorum among the members. 6: To announce the result of the vote 7: If a member of the assembly, he is entitled to vote 8: The speaker cannot close the current session unless by order of the assembly, which requires a two-thirds vote; nor can he prevent the making of legitimate motions by hurrying through the proceedings. 9: He continues to serve all future Diets until resignation, or being recalled by a 2/3 vote of the assembly.
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Post by Duke Gary da Carlsen on Feb 17, 2023 20:53:22 GMT
For 08 and 09, why a 2/3 majority?
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Post by Marq Luq d'Jean on Feb 17, 2023 20:55:18 GMT
As noted Lord-Archon and true blood of several past Emperors, Trajan Evander presents himself as candidate for speaker of this Imperial Diet. The Crown Prince rises, "I second the nomination of the Lord Archon."
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Post by Alfred Von Gewisse on Feb 17, 2023 20:58:34 GMT
I find the Grandmaster and Lord Archon to be excellent candidates, of what I have heard of them in my far off lands, both men are true and just. I am curious as to the position on the rules/standing of the speaker from the Lord Archon.
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Post by Lord-Archon Trajan Evander on Feb 17, 2023 21:27:10 GMT
The Lord-Archon appreciates the voices of support for my position as Speaker. My proposal, at present, for the position is as follows:
1: To announce the business before the assembly in the order in which it is to be acted upon
2: Members are entitled to speak as necessary with only requiring recongition by the Speaker to present a motion or law to be discussed and voted on. 3. To allow an open period for comment whereby new business can be proposed by electors
4: To state, and to put to vote all questions which have been moved (seconded)
5: To assist in the expediting of business in every way compatible with the rights of the members by allowing brief remarks when motions are pending, if he thinks it advisable; to restrain the members when engaged in debate, within the rules of order; and to enforce on all occasions the observance of order and decorum among the members.
6: To announce the result of the vote
7: All members of the Assembly are entitled to a vote, including Speaker, however I personally promise to only vote for tie-breaking purposes as an honorable tradition. 8: The speaker cannot close the current session unless by order of the assembly, which requires a 3/5ths vote; nor can he prevent the making of legitimate motions by hurrying through the proceedings.
9: The Speaker serves all for a period of 10 years and can be re-elected, but can be removed via resignation or being recalled by a 2/3 vote of the assembly.
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Post by Admin Bob on Feb 17, 2023 21:30:47 GMT
The Pope rises once more:
"Perhaps, in the interest of time, the assembly could consider that a vote for a speaker is also a vote for that speakers suggestion on the role of the speaker"
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Post by Johann von Lüttwitz on Feb 17, 2023 21:40:13 GMT
For 08 and 09, why a 2/3 majority? Good Sir, 2/3 is a number which requires broad agreement and consensus yet is not so small as to allow stubborn holdouts to scuttle all business of the body.
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Post by King Gościsław Kopaszewski on Feb 17, 2023 21:45:11 GMT
I do not wish to impune in any way the piousness nor honour of the spoken-for candidates for the seat of the speaker. It has been beyond the lifetimes of all those present that the realms elected a speaker or conducted a diet and yet we are still in relative peace and harmony.
I was chosen by God to rule my people and command its armies, not to take orders from someone chosen by man.
My proposal is simple.
We do not elect a speaker and the Diet is consigned to history along with its emperors. If God wanted us to be ruled by the Diet, he would have chosen one of us to rule already, but he has not and therefore it would be blasphemous to consider it.
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Post by Alfred Von Gewisse on Feb 17, 2023 21:45:22 GMT
Alfred Von Gewisse rose:
Both platforms are of excellent quality with minimal differences. However, the one main difference between the two is the length of speakership. I too favor a set term, where the speaker only acts in that capacity for a certain number of Diets, let's say three for sake of argument, and then the final act is to oversee the next speaker upon the fourth Diet.
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Post by Alfred Von Gewisse on Feb 17, 2023 21:47:34 GMT
I do not wish to impune in any way the piousness nor honour of the spoken-for candidates for the seat of the speaker. It has been beyond the lifetimes of all those present that the realms elected a speaker or conducted a diet and yet we are still in relative peace and harmony. I was chosen by God to rule my people and command its armies, not to take orders from someone chosen by man. My proposal is simple. We do not elect a speaker and the Diet is consigned to history along with its emperors. If God wanted us to be ruled by the Diet, he would have chosen one of us to rule already, but he has not and therefore it would be blasphemous to consider it. Alfred turned to Kopas with digust: "How dare you presume to speak for our Lord when his representative on Earth is the one who called this Imperial Diet! Such is blasphemy. There is only one man who speaks for the Lord and it is not you!
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Post by Johann von Lüttwitz on Feb 17, 2023 21:47:42 GMT
I do not wish to impune in any way the piousness nor honour of the spoken-for candidates for the seat of the speaker. It has been beyond the lifetimes of all those present that the realms elected a speaker or conducted a diet and yet we are still in relative peace and harmony. I was chosen by God to rule my people and command its armies, not to take orders from someone chosen by man. My proposal is simple. We do not elect a speaker and the Diet is consigned to history along with its emperors. If God wanted us to be ruled by the Diet, he would have chosen one of us to rule already, but he has not and therefore it would be blasphemous to consider it. This suggestion goes against the Holy Father and should I be elected speaker, I would punish this heretical talk extremely harshly. If I am not elected speaker, I shall lobby for the punishment of this man.
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Post by King Percy LXII of Percia on Feb 17, 2023 22:07:20 GMT
We consider the Diet to be a useful tool in the peaceable and cooperative conduct of rulers. We do not agree with the proposal to dissolve the Diet.
We agree with the proposal from the Lord-Archon that Speakers serve a fixed term (although We propose a term length divisble by three, such as 9 or 12) and that the Speaker only vote in the case of a tie.
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Post by Thravok I on Feb 17, 2023 22:08:39 GMT
Please wise lords, we have come to this chamber to solve problems, not to create new ones! We shall let divine matters to His Holyness and bishops to discuss. We, the humble servants of God must only discuss about earthly affairs. As we have now two candidates we can have Master Johan Von Lüttwitz to be the first Speaker and the honorable Lord Archon to be the next one. I am sure that I speak for all members when I say that our time is gold.
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Post by Thravok I on Feb 17, 2023 22:09:22 GMT
We consider the Diet to be a useful tool in the peaceable and cooperative conduct of rulers. We do not agree with the proposal to dissolve the Diet. We agree with the proposal from the Lord-Archon that Speakers serve a fixed term (although We propose a term length divisble by three, such as 9 or 12) and that the Speaker only vote in the case of a tie. Nod in agreement
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